Let's say it's summer and you're flipping through the channels. Discovery is running Shark Week and you come upon one of their specials. For the 8,357th time you see some marine biologist telling anyone who'll listen that Great White Sharks don't really act the way they do in Jaws. Thanks, professor, I didn't know that.Okay, maybe it's not his fault, he's a marine biologist and just wants sharks to be better understood. What's bad is when someone takes a piece of fiction, something that is by definition not true, and then dislikes it because it isn't real. In the case of Shark Week, usually, and thankfully, the marine biologist acquits him or herself by saying they love the movie anyway.
On my last post, Bill, Flickhead and myself discussed this very phenomenon in reference to The Core, which I still haven't seen. Bill and Flickhead both commented that it was a decent enough movie but that its most troubling criticisms were that the science in it wasn't accurate. Well, of course it wasn't accurate! It's a movie about setting the suddenly dormant earth's core back in motion. You're looking for accurate science in that? I'm looking for sci-fi entertainment. So sorry to hear about your head injury.
Around three years ago I even wrote a piece about how I really don't care if a movie is filled with inaccuracies and plot holes, as long as it's good (the ensuing comment discussion is lost forever because I was dumb enough to use haloscan for the first two years of this blog. That still chaps my ass). I wrote another piece a few months ago with a different take, imagining what it would be like to be Superman in the real world. I didn't write it for the purpose of deflating any particular Superman comic, cartoon or movie, I just thought it was a fun experiment but I assure you, the dozens of physical unrealities associated with Superman necessitating an extreme suspension of disbelief have never, once, stopped me from enjoying the movies or comics. What stops me is when they're bad. I couldn't care less if the science is wrong.
Here are some other things that have never stood in the way for me:
*Vampires not having reflections. The fact is, of course, that if your eyes can see them, so can a mirror. In order to see something, anything, it has to reflect light. If it does then you and the mirror will see the vampire, if it doesn't, neither will. It's both or nothing. Mirrors don't have some hidden spiritual side that refuses to reflect someone undead. I still think Francis Ford Coppola's version of Dracula is a garbled mess but not one part of that has to do with Dracula not being visible in a mirror.
*Frankenstein couldn't sew together dead body parts, shoot electricity through them and create a new, living person. If that stops you from enjoying the story of Frankenstein, I must be blunt: You're an idiot.
*I'm pretty sure if you take a sleigh and attach an oversized spinning wooden shield to the back of it, you won't travel through time.
*Your genetic structure cannot change back and forth at will, even if your name is Larry Talbot or Bruce Banner.
*If you're body is flooded with radiation through either insane lab experimentation or bites from radioactive spiders, you're not going to become indestructible. You're going to get cancer and die. It will be horrible for you and all those who love you.
The fact is, I don't go to the movies for lessons in science. That's usually something I'm pretty forgiving about as long as it doesn't cross any kind of "audience respect" threshold. For instance, Peter Parker being bitten by a radioactive spider and attaining super powers is fine and thoroughly expected in the superhero universe. Same with Wily Coyote surviving accidents that would do in even the heartiest of mortals. No, as long as something follows its own logic, I think it runs little risk of offending or shocking anyone.
In fact, where I do usually have problems with wrong science or things being generally unrealistic is when I'm watching a drama presented in realistic fashion. In other words, a movie that takes place in a universe where Peter Parker being bit by a radioactive spider would result in him, at the very least, developing a malignant growth. In that universe I expect what's presented on the screen to be generally acceptable as something that could actually happen. But I must admit, even then, it's not a deal breaker if it isn't.
When I watched The Girl Who Played With Fire, I was disappointed, it's true, but not because it contained one of the most unrealistic scenes ever presented in a movie centering itself in a realistic universe. No, I was disappointed for reasons I can only outline once I've seen the third (I haven't yet) and take in the trilogy as a whole and, possibly, review it all here on Cinema Styles.
That scene, by the way, involves our hero, Lisbeth Salander, being shot three times (once in the head), buried under a few feet of dirt and left there, presumably dead. Then, the next morning (
this is hours later) we see her hand break through the ground and realize she is digging herself out. Hell, forget the gunshot wounds for now. Get a bag of potting soil, stick your head in it and attempt to breath. Now, not being able to breath, keep your head there for six to eight hours and, well, nice to have known you (by the way, don't actually do that!). But, somehow, Lizbeth is able to breath under smothering conditions while suffering severe torso and head trauma. On top of that, once out, she's able to pick up an axe and hack someone in the leg and then defend herself against another with a gun. She's a hell of a gal but again, and I'm being honest, that's not what disappointed me. It was the lackluster story, forgettable characters and a continuation of formerly interesting characters that took them nowhere that disappointed. The multiple shooting/burial scene? Hell, it's the one thing I seem to remember so more power to it, right?Bad science, even when presented in realistic drama, should never be a deal-breaker. I understand the temptation to use it for a movie we don't like but the reasons any of us think a movie isn't good should center around the writing, acting, direction, editing and so on. A movie with bad science can be great, just as a movie with good science can be bad. It's not the science that makes Bride of Frankenstein great, it's the acting, direction and writing. It's the set design. It's the cinematography. It's the contributions of every single man and woman working on the crew or for the studio that made it happen. But the science? Hell, if the science in that movie were worth anything I would have long ago created a whole menagerie of little people in jars to keep me entertained when there wasn't a good sci-fi movie on the tube. And when there was? Miniature popcorn tubs for all! Even the king!

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One of my pet hates, recently stoked to new life by a Slate article about stuttering in the movies, is that sort of smug non-critiquing that's about scoring pretty facile points about how X and Y movies aren't very good depictions of stuttering or psychosis or sleep apnea or whatever the fuck, usually leaping off from the mistaken impression that realism is any regards a priority for the filmmakers. But then again, considering the depth of impact movies can have on people - the legions who though after One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest in the mid '70s that its depiction of a mental hospital was realistic for a modern period, for instance - it's no wonder that some professionals get so frustrated.
Miracle On 34th Street has got to be the ideal fantasy wherein you ask the timeless Criswell question,"Can you prove that it didn't happen??" the Val Lewtons are good at this kind of slight of hand also.
I figured "The Core" was going to be totally stupid, watched it anyway for some reason, and enjoyed it. Of course the science is absurd, but I think if a movie lays out some ground rules and then sticks to them, it can still work even if improbable or impossible. I think the movie has to create enough good will in some way that you are willing (or want) to go along with whatever far fetched ideas the movie maker comes up with.
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Let me just say that I'm the first one in the door when Hollywood finally does its sleep apnea movie - and they better get it right!
Rod, for the most part, I have always encountered this with folks who wouldn't call themselves cinephiles or even huge movie fans. It's the non-fans who drone on and on about how "they don't really prepare fish that way in Jutland" because it makes them feel superior, I suppose. Like, while you're busy foolishly enjoying the movie, their eagle eye is catching all the mistakes that they think should make you hate it.
"Can you prove that it didn't happen??"
Chris, I've tried, and I still can't prove Eros didn't attempt to raise the dead against me. But I'm going to keep trying.
I think the movie has to create enough good will in some way that you are willing (or want) to go along with whatever far fetched ideas the movie maker comes up with.
Patrick, my sentiments exactly. If the story and characters are written and acted well enough, and you care, the science doesn't matter.
I emphatically don't want my movies to get bogged down in 'real' science. The whole point of a movie is to take me to a different place and once therem you get to make up what ever rules you want. I have a real life, I don't need a movie for that.
I just want a token effort at internal logic. My dad called it the plausibly impossible and my drama teachers called it the suspension of disbelief.
The characters I want rooted in reality, show me how people I can relate to interact with your made up world.
Pick the most 'realistic' move you can think of and I guarantee that no one in the real world can express themselves that perfectly for five consecutive sentences let alone 90 minutes.
But isn't the real point that one really doesn't start criticizing the lack of real science unless the movie is boring enough to allow one to think about it? I've seen a lotof criticism levelled against the STAR WARS films but rarely on its science because, flawed or not, those films do sweep you away in that respect.
I do agree that there must be an internal logic. For example, if the transporter on STAR TREK can't do intraship beaming, it really bothers me when Scotty finds a workaround to do it "this one time, but I dinna think it will work agin, Cap'n."
I just want a token effort at internal logic.
Same here. The method of getting Christopher Reeve back in time in Somewhere in Time involves dressing up in period clothes and thinking about it really hard. Works for me.
And I agree that the characters, in even the most ridiculous sci-fi plot, should be characters rooted in reality, people we can identify with. It's only in movies where that doesn't happen that bad science starts to stand out because we focus on it since the characters have lost our interest.
I do agree that there must be an internal logic. For example, if the transporter on STAR TREK can't do intraship beaming, it really bothers me when Scotty finds a workaround to do it "this one time, but I dinna think it will work agin, Cap'n."
That's where most people have a problem. Trek runs into some trouble there because it has a fan base that pays close attention to the show's bible when the writers don't. For instance, in the episode Assignment: Earth, they make time travel appear to be something they do routinely, for 'historical research.' In other episodes, time travel is impossible unless moving through some sub-space temporal distortion. In the fourth movie, it's possible but made to sound extremely dangerous and risky and impossible to pinpoint an exact time.
Overall, though, I think Star Trek has always done a great job of mixing real science and pseudo science in ways that come off as totally plausible to the viewer.
You would totally have hated watching "Inglorious Basterds" with my boyfriend, who kept carping about the inappropriateness of the style of knife they used for scalping the Nazis.
My dad, alhtough a great lover of movies, has a touch of this, too. Don't ever get him started on "Titanic" - "Have you ever been on ship? Do you know how fast they go? Do you know how ridiculous it is for Leo and Kate to be up there on the front rail of the ship like that?" (Not that I'm a big fan of "Titanic" myself, but you see where I'm going...")
Willing suspension of disbelief - so important for maxium film enjoyment.
Pat, my dad was often the same way. I mentioned before in a post about him critiquing the methods of exorcism in The Exorcist, but he would also allow things like "there's no sound in space" to spoil sci-fi movies. I mean, yes, there's sound in space but it's Star Wars, not 2001. They're clearly operating on two very different levels.
When I find something obviously wrong in a movie, like its science or some factoid that I know is wrong, I find it amusing more than anything else.
You've got to admit that the idea of transplanting the soul (re: Frankenstein Created Woman) is a lot more believable than the concept of stitching a living being together out of dead body parts.
Just sayin' . . .
That Frankenstein could work miracles! He was a god among men.
monster making is just like hooking up the stereo..just gotta know which wires to cross when you sew that head on..thats probably the hardest part.
Doc Frankenstein clearly mixed up the red and yellow video and audio cables.
What you're forgetting, Greg, is that vampires are magic, so in that case the science of mirrors doesn't count. It's magic! God, I hate critics who nitpick, which I'm assuming this article just now did even though I only read the thing about vampires! If a critic hates it, than that must mean it's good! Etc.
Bill, you blight upon my soul, any movie in which a mirror cannot see a vampire is bad for that very fact. I don't care about the acting, writing, direction, etc. If there is even one thing wrong scientifically, the whole enterprise is a fraud.
Hey, wait a minute... I meant to say, screw you!
I'm in marginal agreement about the carping vis a vis stuttering (as an example) but I do draw a distinction between medical inaccuracies and the willful ignorance on the part of filmmakers/storytellers about certain aspects of medicine or science. A case in point for me is the portrayal of asthmatics in films, who are routinely either psychotic (because their labored breathing makes them creepier...
[Sidebar. In my first year of college, all of the residents of my co-ed dormitory were gathered together one night by the staff because there had been an attempted rape on campus. The news of a rapist-at-large went over without much alarm from those assembled but when the Resident Adviser mentioned that the suspect suffered from partial facial paralysis an audible "Ewwwwwwwwww" went through the crowed, as if it's worse to be raped by someone unattractive. End sidebar.]
... or inveterate weaklings for whom the inhaler is a crutch. These movies usually work in a scene where the protagonist(s) take(s) the inhaler from the character in a spirited game of Keep Away or the asthmatic loses his/her inhaler only to discover he/she never really needed it. I really don't see much difference between this and the bit in God's Angry Acre where the suburban wife is raped by mountain men and her screams subside to deeply satisfied moans as she rolls her tongue around her parted lips orgiastically. I'm all for artistic license but as artists we have to or at least should remember that people come to our imaginary worlds from the real one.
Well look who decided to rejoin the blogging community and comment around the place a bit. Old Arbo from the shire. Glad to see you back.
So, yeah, I do understand what you're saying but I also think you're talking much more about stereotyping than accuracy. Stereotyping is something that bothers me a lot more. While it is inaccurate to portray all asthmatics that way it is not necessarily scientifically wrong, just socially wrong. Some asthmatics may, indeed, be evil people or weak incompetents but to always go with one of those portrayals is limiting and stereotypical.
Besides, I know several asthmatics and everyone knows they're sex obsessed lotharios, not violent killers. Well, the males ones anyway.
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